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Teacher Bonuses: The Down Side!
posted by rod on Wednesday April 05, @10:40AM
from the We-need-better-teachers-but-is-this-the-solution dept.
Ecept Jeff Turley writes " Bonuses Pit Teacher Against Teacher" is the headline from Harrisburg Pa. What's with these people? Are we not all on the same side? Go to the URL below. Read the article, and return to ECEPT to discuss which side you take and why using the "Post a Comment" button. "
Update by Rod:The story seems to have disappeared from the USA Today website, but feel free to discuss the good and bad of teacher bonuses...that's what we're here for!

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    teacher bonuses (Score:0)
    by Anonymous on Sunday April 09, @09:39PM EST (#1)
    Hi jeff this is joe. My account will be set up by
    tomorrow. Teacher bonuses are a real sensative
    issue. If districts give bonuses based on how
    students perform on tests this ends up being a
    huge controversy. There are so many factors that
    are included outside the control of teachers that
    affect all students. If bonuses are based on how
    long a teacher has been with a district this does
    not take into account if they are good or bad
    teachers. It is very easy to see how teachers can
    start feeling animosity towards each other when
    each person feels that they are deserving of the
    highest bonus possible. The question is what is
    the best method to determine if teachers have
    improved the learning strategies for their students. How do we assess that skill so that it is far for all teachers. If I were asked I might suggest that bonuses be based on five observations. Based upon these reports a bonus might be awarded. Again, it is only my opinion. I am very hesitant to have my bonus be based on only student performance. Another reason teachers might get upset about how bonuses are given due to content area. Granted, some areas are more difficult for students to learn than participating in a pottery class. Teachers might feel that since they do more teaching they are deserving of a bigger raise than other teachers. Very controversial subject.
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    Re:teacher bonuses (Score:1)
    by rcrocomb (rcrocomb@asu.edu) on Monday April 10, @04:03PM EST (#2)
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    I guess I would ask what exactly these bonuses are targeted toward: teachers that students like, or teachers whose students have good results -- with the caveats about student performance as noted in the first comment, or teachers whose students show the greatest *increase* in performance under the teacher, or something else?

    I would posit that the first is what is rewarded, at least at higher levels of education where a university department might solicit student opinion on professors: the appearance of success *is* success. Of course this can backfire when a teacher is well-liked because they are easy and not because they are effective and interesting.

    As noted in Jeff's comments, the second may be beyond the teacher's control in many instances: where students come from fragmented backgrounds, etc.

    I think the third is probably the most fair: if you normalize against performance at the beginning of, e.g., a school year, then you should be able to compare performance increases in many areas.

    I don't have any real thoughts about measuring instructional difficulty in content areas.

    Of course, I am a student and not a teacher, so take it all with a grain of salt.


    Robert Crocombe
    rcrocomb@asu.edu


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